Comments on: Battle of the Warrens http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/ Faith. Fiction. Fun. Thu, 17 May 2012 21:25:39 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Melanie N. Brasher http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1898 Melanie N. Brasher Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:23:59 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1898 I appreciate your honesty in this post. As writers, we can get sucked into words, can't we? I think you can definitely trust Rick Warren. I'm glad you examine and question books, and it's good to weary of the marketing gimmicks. Not everything published under a "Christian" name is truth. Thanks for making me think! Hope you are well. :) I appreciate your honesty in this post. As writers, we can get sucked into words, can’t we? I think you can definitely trust Rick Warren. I’m glad you examine and question books, and it’s good to weary of the marketing gimmicks. Not everything published under a “Christian” name is truth.

Thanks for making me think! Hope you are well. :)

]]> By: DD http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1897 DD Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:16:58 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1897 Also, I don't mind his use of non-christians so long as they are experts in their field. It depends on what they are actually teaching or contributing as part of this "plan." Warren probably, at least in part, is using them because they are well-known. However, it wouldn't have hurt to use a Christian in the field, like Don Corbert. Also, I don’t mind his use of non-christians so long as they are experts in their field. It depends on what they are actually teaching or contributing as part of this “plan.” Warren probably, at least in part, is using them because they are well-known. However, it wouldn’t have hurt to use a Christian in the field, like Don Corbert.

]]> By: DD http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1896 DD Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:03:50 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1896 As far as the health part goes, taking care of ourselves is in part out of respect to the bodies God gave us and partly about being able to do his work. One, however, doesn't have to resort to wishy-washy New Ageish stuff (see "Eat This and Live" by Don Corbert for common sense health, this seems to be the trend away from fad diets, etc. In fact Oz's books "You: The Owner's Manual" and "You: Staying Young" are also good. Surprised he dables in these other things). Christianity is fraught with fads, 7-step plans, 10-step plans, "say this magical prayer over and over for success," feel-good-Dr.-Philish sermons and dumbed down gospel. The evangelical world exploded so fast in recent decades, not a lot of people where stopping to take a breath and a lot of strangeness filtered in. I think some people are starting to fight back. I hope the trend I see is real (as promoted in books like "Radical" by David Platt, "Not a Fan" by Kyle Idleman, "Simple Life" by Thom Rainer...) and will continue to grow stronger. In spite of looking strong to many within, Christianity has some serious housecleaning to do. As far as the health part goes, taking care of ourselves is in part out of respect to the bodies God gave us and partly about being able to do his work. One, however, doesn’t have to resort to wishy-washy New Ageish stuff (see “Eat This and Live” by Don Corbert for common sense health, this seems to be the trend away from fad diets, etc. In fact Oz’s books “You: The Owner’s Manual” and “You: Staying Young” are also good. Surprised he dables in these other things).

Christianity is fraught with fads, 7-step plans, 10-step plans, “say this magical prayer over and over for success,” feel-good-Dr.-Philish sermons and dumbed down gospel. The evangelical world exploded so fast in recent decades, not a lot of people where stopping to take a breath and a lot of strangeness filtered in. I think some people are starting to fight back. I hope the trend I see is real (as promoted in books like “Radical” by David Platt, “Not a Fan” by Kyle Idleman, “Simple Life” by Thom Rainer…) and will continue to grow stronger. In spite of looking strong to many within, Christianity has some serious housecleaning to do.

]]> By: Judy Tescher http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1893 Judy Tescher Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:54:25 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1893 Very interesting. I tried to read the 'Purpose Driven Life' but never got into it. Maybe I'll try reading it again, but this time with your thoughts in mind. Very interesting. I tried to read the ‘Purpose Driven Life’ but never got into it. Maybe I’ll try reading it again, but this time with your thoughts in mind.

]]> By: Jessica Thomas http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1892 Jessica Thomas Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:13:14 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1892 :) Honestly I don't remember a lot of the book. I don't remember disliking it, nor was I forever changed. Maybe it's just me, but I'm becoming quite weary of Christian marketing gimmicks. :)

Honestly I don’t remember a lot of the book. I don’t remember disliking it, nor was I forever changed. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m becoming quite weary of Christian marketing gimmicks.

]]> By: Jessica Thomas http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1891 Jessica Thomas Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:11:15 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1891 I'm so glad to hear you say that, Nicole. I was wondering if I was being too alarmist, but it's truly been eating at me since I made those connections in regards to Rick Warren. I agree with your points one and two. As for one, I am all for taking care of the body, but question is why are you doing it? Who's team are you playing for? And if you're trying to play for God's team, but you're expecting excellent health and long life in return for your efforts, then you may wind up sadly disappointed, because sometimes sickness comes despite our best efforts. I’m so glad to hear you say that, Nicole. I was wondering if I was being too alarmist, but it’s truly been eating at me since I made those connections in regards to Rick Warren. I agree with your points one and two. As for one, I am all for taking care of the body, but question is why are you doing it? Who’s team are you playing for? And if you’re trying to play for God’s team, but you’re expecting excellent health and long life in return for your efforts, then you may wind up sadly disappointed, because sometimes sickness comes despite our best efforts.

]]> By: Jill http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1890 Jill Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:55:08 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1890 Generally, when I hear about the purpose-driven life on the radio, I always ask myself what does it mean, anyway (just insert expletive)? I'm so overloaded with purpose I think I'm going to fall the floor. God, please protect me from the purpose-driven life. Please, please. Generally, when I hear about the purpose-driven life on the radio, I always ask myself what does it mean, anyway (just insert expletive)? I’m so overloaded with purpose I think I’m going to fall the floor. God, please protect me from the purpose-driven life. Please, please.

]]> By: Nicole http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/faith/battle-of-the-warrens/comment-page-1/#comment-1889 Nicole Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:38:00 +0000 http://jessicathomasink.com/blog/?p=3007#comment-1889 I haven't read the references you included, Jess, because just reading this makes me uneasy. Number one: God never expected our bodies to be as healthy as we are spiritually. It's impossible. They're corrupted by sin and will die, some sooner than later. Are we back to name it and claim it? Number two: "you will always have the poor among you"; "wars and rumors of wars, nations will rise against nations, famines, earthquakes, etc."; "In this world you will have trouble, but take courage I have overcome the world." Who can seek perfection on this sin-filled earth? Yes, take care of the body but more importantly our soul. Nurture the spirit. This *%@! sounds like New Age all over the place. Good for Warren Smith. He sounds far more reliable. I haven’t read the references you included, Jess, because just reading this makes me uneasy. Number one: God never expected our bodies to be as healthy as we are spiritually. It’s impossible. They’re corrupted by sin and will die, some sooner than later. Are we back to name it and claim it?

Number two: “you will always have the poor among you”; “wars and rumors of wars, nations will rise against nations, famines, earthquakes, etc.”; “In this world you will have trouble, but take courage I have overcome the world.” Who can seek perfection on this sin-filled earth?

Yes, take care of the body but more importantly our soul. Nurture the spirit. This *%@! sounds like New Age all over the place. Good for Warren Smith. He sounds far more reliable.

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